In this episode, we explore the difference between discipleship as doing and discipleship as receiving—and why that shift changes everything. Jessie and Julia share their own stories of burnout, identity loss, and the quiet invitation to stop striving and start receiving from God’s presence. We talk about anxiety, formation, confession, and how true growth begins not with what we do, but with who God is and how we learn to respond to Him.

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